Evidence of meeting #103 for Justice and Human Rights in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was monday.
A recording is available from Parliament.
9:40 a.m.
NDP
Randall Garrison NDP Esquimalt—Saanich—Sooke, BC
Madam Chair, I've let this go several times, but it is against the rules of the House, which apply in this committee, to impugn the motives of other members.
Mr. Moore has used the word "blackmail". He's used other things to imply what the motivations of other members are in supporting this bill. I unreservedly support this bill. I have no other motivations. I would very much like to move on to the study of anti-Semitism and Islamophobia. It is out of order and a breach of privilege for Mr. Moore to imply that we have motives other than those we have stated in this committee.
9:45 a.m.
Conservative
Rob Moore Conservative Fundy Royal, NB
Madam Chair, I'm not impugning the motives of any individual around this table who wishes to support this legislation. If you want to support extremely flawed legislation that targets parents and teachers, that is your right. As a member of Parliament, you're accountable for your decisions.
I'm not impugning the motives of someone who would support this legislation.
I'm saying it's very clear that passing this bill is being used—
9:45 a.m.
NDP
Randall Garrison NDP Esquimalt—Saanich—Sooke, BC
On a point of order, Madam Chair, he's repeating exactly the same breach of the rules that I have complained about previously.
9:45 a.m.
Conservative
Rob Moore Conservative Fundy Royal, NB
If my point is wrong then there should be no problem with agreeing that we begin the study on anti-Semitism on Monday. If we're all in agreement on that then I will drop this line of argument.
Irrespective of what happens with this private member's bill today, we should begin our study of anti-Semitism. I'm not framing that as a motion; I'm asking members to agree that we will begin our study on anti-Semitism on Monday. If members around the table agree to that then there's nothing to prevent it from happening on Monday.
9:45 a.m.
Liberal
9:45 a.m.
Conservative
Marilyn Gladu Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON
Thank you, Chair.
Amendment G-1 says that the act will come into force 30 days after it has received royal assent. I don't think that is the right timing for the coming into force on this, because the Minister of Justice has clearly said that he will bring legislation forward to address the concern the teachers expressed about how, if we remove section 43, they won't have any protection until he puts it back in somewhere else.
I don't really think this bill should come into force until that other protection is in place. I would be prepared to make an amendment if there is agreement to do that, but that's really what I'm thinking. You can't take away the protection and not have it there for some period of time. They don't want section 43 to come out until Minister Virani has had a chance to bring in legislation to address the teachers' concerns.
9:45 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab
Shall G-1 carry?
(Amendment agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Shall the title carry?
(Title agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)
Shall the bill carry?
(Bill C-273 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)
Shall the chair report the bill as amended to the House?
9:45 a.m.
Some hon. members
Agreed.
On division.
9:45 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab
Shall the committee order a reprint of the bill as amended for the use of the House at report stage?
9:45 a.m.
Some hon. members
Agreed.
On division.
9:45 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab
Thank you very much. That concludes clause-by-clause.
First let me thank all the witnesses for coming here to provide us support during the last two days.
Members, thank you, and I'm asking you not to move.
We will now adjourn this meeting, and I'm going to go in camera for business for those members who wish to stay. For those on Zoom who are members, if you would like to come back, a new link will be sent to you.
[Proceedings continue in camera]