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Industry committee  I think these are two separate issues. Youth safety and youth exploitation online are a key, critical concern of ours. We just announced the further rollout of an initiative with the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children that is going to ensure intimate images and sexploitation are more easily removed from platforms.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

Rachel Curran

Industry committee  Again, no other government has pursued legislation like Bill C-18. We would be happy to work with the government to put news content back up, if they are able to carve us out of that bill. The Canadian government is unique in pursuing that particular piece of legislation. That is separate and apart from our efforts to protect youth on our platforms, which are ongoing.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

Rachel Curran

Industry committee  We do have clear policies against manipulated media, whether it's video or audio, if it's misleading, and we remove that kind of content. We set up the oversight board a number of years ago to give us guidance on some of our content policies, and that's exactly what they have done in this instance.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

Rachel Curran

Industry committee  If the question is whether the AIDA is going to help us set guardrails in Canada, the answer is maybe. It depends on where things land. If some of the amendments the minister has proposed that we're concerned about are included in the legislation, I think we would need to think about how we respond to that.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

Rachel Curran

Industry committee  I agree with that. It will change the labour market. I'm actually really optimistic about this. Some 200 years ago, 72% of North American workers were farmers, and now there are fewer than 2%. Sixty per cent of the jobs that existed in North America in 2018 didn't exist in 1940, so I think we're going to create a whole new set of jobs.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

Rachel Curran

Industry committee  Yes, we agree with that. There should be a threshold for harm.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

Rachel Curran

Industry committee  We asked to be included in the Canadian code. We were told it was for Canadian companies only. We were one of the first to sign on to the White House commitments. We are signed on to other voluntary codes that are similar.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

Rachel Curran

Industry committee  I think you can do both things at the same time. You can set a materiality threshold that's broad and potentially applicable to an infinite variety of use cases and also outline specific use cases that you are concerned about, including election disinformation and the provision of health care services or employment services.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

Rachel Curran

Industry committee  Yes. Exactly.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

Rachel Curran

Industry committee  Yes, you could. I think our concern is that the minister's proposed amendments identify use cases or specific scenarios that we don't believe are high impact. That's where we've identified concerns about things like content moderation and prioritization, and also the fact that there is no threshold for harm in the bill currently.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

Rachel Curran

Industry committee  Yes, I do think speed is necessary, if for no other reason than to maintain public confidence in AI and in our products and services. I think it's important to get it right and make sure that you don't step on the work that's being done by the Canadian AI ecosystem, but I think speed is a good idea.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

Rachel Curran

Industry committee  I think it's a great idea to have an AI commissioner report to Parliament rather than to the minister of the department directly. As we've said, the remote access provisions in here allow the commissioner to conduct audits and access user data in a company's possession. That legal power is unprecedented in liberal democracies, and even non-liberal countries.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

Rachel Curran

Industry committee  Similarly, we're not aware. We're equally concerned about the remote-access provisions in the bill, which would allow the AI commissioner to remotely access data from all of our companies without any concern for privacy or protection of that data.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

Rachel Curran

Industry committee  I'm sorry to jump in here, but you can also amend the legislation to identify specific use cases that you are concerned about: If it's election disinformation or if it's delivery of health care services or accommodation services, you can insert those into this bill as specific cases that you want addressed.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

Rachel Curran

Industry committee  To be clear, we don't allow deepfake video and audio on our platform. We have developed a number of tools to take them down and identify them.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

Rachel Curran