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Public Accounts committee  I don't see it as red tape. I see it as visibility across the organization. The committee can meet quickly if there's a need, but what I'm trying to institute at CBSA is that, as these things don't come up at the last minute, if everything is in order it's a short discussion and people proceed.

May 14th, 2024Committee meeting

Erin O'Gorman

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, to the previous question on the number of contracts, in February this year we had 243 IT consultants working in CBSA, and as of May we have 175—I undertook to get those numbers. We are making a concerted effort to do a knowledge transfer and have a plan for all the work we are doing by virtue of having consultants there, and what the long-term plan is.

May 14th, 2024Committee meeting

Erin O'Gorman

Public Accounts committee  I do. I absolutely dispute that. Your question was not, “Did you meet with the Privy Council Office or the Prime Minister's Office before your appearance, to discuss your appearance?” Had that been the question, I would have said no. I have never met with PMO with regard to any of my—

May 14th, 2024Committee meeting

Erin O'Gorman

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, may I finish my—

May 14th, 2024Committee meeting

Erin O'Gorman

Public Accounts committee  I believe there was a statement that was erroneous that I am fixing. If the question was asking if I met with the Prime Minister's Office—

May 14th, 2024Committee meeting

Erin O'Gorman

Public Accounts committee  The question is—

May 14th, 2024Committee meeting

Erin O'Gorman

Public Accounts committee  The team is investigating the allegation. I don't think it's been established that—

May 14th, 2024Committee meeting

Erin O'Gorman

Public Accounts committee  I don't believe it's been established that the emails were deleted.

May 14th, 2024Committee meeting

Erin O'Gorman

Public Accounts committee  I have not understood from either the Auditor General or the RCMP that they were not provided with emails that they were seeking.

May 14th, 2024Committee meeting

Erin O'Gorman

Public Accounts committee  Yes. I've established governance that any contract at CBSA that is being renewed, extended or established goes through a committee that's chaired by the executive deputy head.

May 14th, 2024Committee meeting

Erin O'Gorman

Public Accounts committee  I don't know the specific meeting that you're talking about, but if I was at PCO, I would have been—

May 14th, 2024Committee meeting

Erin O'Gorman

Public Accounts committee  As I said, I don't recall those meetings. I don't have the information in front of me. I have spoken to PCO—

May 14th, 2024Committee meeting

Erin O'Gorman

May 14th, 2024Committee meeting

Erin O'Gorman

Public Accounts committee  I would have to review my calendar. I don't recall meeting in person with PMO officials in any meetings. This was more than six months ago. Mr. Chair, is there a specific question that the member wants an answer to? Pointing out dates of meetings from six months ago, I'm hard pressed to—

May 14th, 2024Committee meeting

Erin O'Gorman

Public Accounts committee  I would have to review my calendar. I don't have it in front of me.

May 14th, 2024Committee meeting

Erin O'Gorman