We are engaged with releasing individuals. Ideally, it's prior to their release. We attend the Canadian Armed Forces base and wing SCAN seminars or what used to be a SCAN seminar. Now they're transitioning over to career fairs. We're proactively engaged prior to the release of the member.
As I said in my opening comments, we talk to those I have identified as releasing prior to their release. We talk to their families. We offer spousal employment opportunities also. Ideally, when the individual makes that transition, they already have an apprenticeship or a support occupation lined up within the construction industry. That helps to alleviate any stressors pertaining specifically to civilian careers.
A lot of individuals, if they joined the army or the Canadian Armed Forces at 18, will not have had any other civilian career until they release at 32 or 34 years old. If they're married with two young kids, that is a significant stressor.
We get in prior to the release, ideally, and deal with the individual to help guide them through that process. The system works well now. We're always looking for efficiencies on how to make it better as we go, but right now the system does work.