I just want add that I'm new to this committee, but I think I've been frankly stunned at the extent to which we've been debating this—and from the perspective of the artists, where it seems like the concern is coming from, rather than from the perspective of the veterans. If you look at the two pieces of art and if you talk directly to the veterans, you can see why they feel the one design....
I'm sorry, Mr. Chair. The members across are yelling at me while I'm trying to speak. It's a little distracting.